PUT WEIGHT ON FAST FAST SUPER FAST

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PUT WEIGHT ON FAST FAST SUPER FAST

Postby vyhlidal » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:06 pm

can a pig gain 10 pounds in 8 days its eating show chow pig first step 22% so it will eat more protein puting eggs on top so it will eat more any suggestions on fast weight. have one day left.[color=red:c14668530d][/color:c14668530d][color=green:c14668530d][/color:c14668530d]
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Postby GWshowpigs » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:28 pm

If it is gaining 2 pounds daily, for sure it will gain 10 punds. Find is ADG and then that will tell you. If it is less than 2 then ask KGB or JohnnySow for some help, they know a lot about feed. Hope this helps!
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Postby magnumPIG » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:39 pm

Need more info. age, weight, and what your goal is for this pig.
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Postby hampy622 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:39 pm

lower the protein to add weight faster you can do that easy and more in 8 days you could gain over 20lbs if you try.
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Postby Jeniferlee » Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:10 pm

hampy622 wrote:lower the protein to add weight faster you can do that easy and more in 8 days you could gain over 20lbs if you try.



? We only do 4H hogs but I always thought the higher the protein the better the weight gain? We are feeding 20% and we need a weight gain of 2 lbs a day.
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Postby johnnysow » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:55 pm

how old are these pigs,and how much do they weight, how long to the show?
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Postby MEATMAKER » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:27 am

What would you feed if you had about 70 days to show to put the most weight on with a heavy muscled gilt. I am feeding moormans 273 right now. i dont have scales but would say gilt weighs around 130 to 140 right now.
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Postby hampy622 » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:18 am

No the higher the protein the slower they will gain. If you can get your pig on a 16% with high fat and then add more fat to it you will gain a lot faster. I would go on 16% also meatmaker. I would also topdress with moorfat. I used a ton of it this summer and itworked pretty well.
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Postby kgb » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:30 am

To the original poster: First Step is high protein, but very high in energy as well. No need to add eggs, they are already in the feed.

My suggestion is stay with that feed and add High Octane Power Fuel at 1/2 lbs per day and increase to 1 lbs per day on the third day of feeding it.

If you want to add something else, find some Land O'Lakes Ultra Fresh Lamb Milk Replacer and add 1/2 lbs per day (dry...don't make milk out of it). You can usually find this at the same place you bought First Step.

This will do what you want and much more.
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Postby GWshowpigs » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:25 am

If you keep adding fat, will it add more cover? Or just give them more energy? And do you have to hand feed them to use MoorFat?
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Postby kgb » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:06 pm

Fat is energy. Heavily muscled pigs will generally use fat or energy to fuel growth and muscle synthesis until they reach the point in their growth curve when they begin to lay down fat.

So, it depends upon the size of your pig. However, with that said, early in the growth curve you can cause pigs to lay down more cover by "overriding" their energy requirements. Simply, just give them more energy (in the form of fat) than they need, and they will begin put on some cover.

Moorfat is not one of our products, but when I've seen the product it is a powder, so if you put it in a self feeder it will sift down to the bottom of the self feeder and the pigs are not going to see/eat much of it.
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Postby GWshowpigs » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:44 pm

KGB-

Have you seen the pictures of my pig? Would you say that he is heavily muscled? HE has a good amount of cover on him so, that part is ok. He could probably lose a bit really. What if I fed him it in a feed pan? with bananas mashed up?
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Postby kgb » Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:16 pm

I haven't seen the pictures. Send me an e-mail with it attached: kburg@landolakes.com
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Postby MEATMAKER » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:42 am

If high protein does not put weight on then why feed it, i thought it would develope muscle and build up your pig and put growth and size on it?
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